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~(INTRO)~
That's right folks! This is a GUIDE TO COMMENTING! It's short, so as not to bore you, and it should be helpful judging by the majority of comments i see and recieve. Anyways, i'm going to cut to the chase. As promised it's only 6 steps long but not necessarily in order. Here goes nothing!
SIZE DOESN'T MATTER
I'm going to start this off by assuring you that a long comment doesn't necessarily mean a good comment. A sentance or two is often adequate if you really can't say much more, are drunk, crunched for time, or am just sick and tired of clearing out your new deviation alerts.
"You don't always need a super-long comment to make it a good comment."
TRY TO HELP
I know, some deviations really bite the big one, but where there's something wrong there's the opportunity for something to be right. The worst piece in the world has everything to improve on. Remember that. Next time you come across a bad piece, tell them what's bad about it, and suggest a way to fix it! This does not require you to be an expert at whatever type of art this happens to be. Just feelings you have or descriptions of what you would do are fine.
"Don't leave the doomed hanging or the wounded bleeding - help the poor person out after you rip them apart! It's your mess, clean it up!"
DON'T BE A RETARD
Oh, find this offensive do you? Well we'll get to that. What i mean by this is that "+fav" or " i like it" is not a good comment. Sure, an artist likes to know people approve of their work, but unless you have to go to work in 5 seconds or you've gotta pee something fierce, there's no excuse for this kind of comment. There's an old saying that goes something like "Don't open your mouth unless you have something good to say" well i don't believe in that, but if you say "Don't comment unless you've got something not so blatantly retarded to say" could work here.
"+Fav is not a comment. Be creative. We're artists, damn it - it's what we do!"
OPEN A WINDOW
Ok, you might be impressed here, as this is actually just a tip. When you first click to get to said deviation, it opens as a thumbnail with the comments below. Right-click (or whatever it is you mac users do) on the thumbnail and go to "open link in new window." This opens the full image - you guessed it - in a new window. Now in the first one, scroll down to your little comment box, and now all you have to do to refer back to the piece is click on a dumb little button at the bottom of your screen. Hip Hip Hooray. The point?
"Refer back to the image when you're commenting. Helps you describe what you're seeing and sometimes pick up on new things"
READ UP ON IT
This is pretty much a no-brainer, but then again, if it wasn't an issue i wouldn't be putting it in here, now would i?
READ THE DESCRIPTION. It sometimes informs you about the piece so that you may better understand it and other times will even tell you about mistakes the artist knows are there! Thinking of mistakes and reading, it's also a good idea to skim the rest of the comments while you're scrolling down. If not to laugh at their inferiority (just kidding) then to find out if anyone else noticed what you did so you can skip that or refer to it in your comment.
"YOU never know, but USUALLY the artist does. Read about it now in the very description of the piece you are critiqueing!"
DON'T GO SOFT
My final step is the promised closure to my outburst above. Just because you need to try and be helpful doesn't mean you should hold back. Most people's comments are crap because they are afraid. And to avoid sounding like that guy from Donnie Darko i'm going to clarify this by saying: They are afraid of hurting the artist's feelings by pointing out things that are wrong. THIS IS WRONG. If there's something you don't like about a piece, SAY IT! EVEN if it is 'just an opinion'. It's your opinion and you have a right to it! Just be sure when you're stating opinions you think you're gonna catch hell for, that you tell them quite clearly that it is just your opinion. Facts are one thing, opinions are everything else.
"Remember: Opinions help artists grow - don't be afraid to voice yours."
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~CONCLUSION~
There ya go - that wasn't so hard now, was it? Didn't think so. As a parting note, i'm going to leave you with a few links regarding commenting that you might find more useful, but lengthier as well. This guide is meant to give people an 'abbreviated' guide to commenting. Their guides are longer, but more comprehensive. Check them out!
THE COMMENT REVOLUTION by ~ splat
C-DADDY'S GUIDE TO COMMENTING by ~ coshdaddy
"The Art of Commenting" by ~ inziladun
That's all folks! Thanks for reading!
DEVIL!
That's right folks! This is a GUIDE TO COMMENTING! It's short, so as not to bore you, and it should be helpful judging by the majority of comments i see and recieve. Anyways, i'm going to cut to the chase. As promised it's only 6 steps long but not necessarily in order. Here goes nothing!
SIZE DOESN'T MATTER
I'm going to start this off by assuring you that a long comment doesn't necessarily mean a good comment. A sentance or two is often adequate if you really can't say much more, are drunk, crunched for time, or am just sick and tired of clearing out your new deviation alerts.
"You don't always need a super-long comment to make it a good comment."
TRY TO HELP
I know, some deviations really bite the big one, but where there's something wrong there's the opportunity for something to be right. The worst piece in the world has everything to improve on. Remember that. Next time you come across a bad piece, tell them what's bad about it, and suggest a way to fix it! This does not require you to be an expert at whatever type of art this happens to be. Just feelings you have or descriptions of what you would do are fine.
"Don't leave the doomed hanging or the wounded bleeding - help the poor person out after you rip them apart! It's your mess, clean it up!"
DON'T BE A RETARD
Oh, find this offensive do you? Well we'll get to that. What i mean by this is that "+fav" or " i like it" is not a good comment. Sure, an artist likes to know people approve of their work, but unless you have to go to work in 5 seconds or you've gotta pee something fierce, there's no excuse for this kind of comment. There's an old saying that goes something like "Don't open your mouth unless you have something good to say" well i don't believe in that, but if you say "Don't comment unless you've got something not so blatantly retarded to say" could work here.
"+Fav is not a comment. Be creative. We're artists, damn it - it's what we do!"
OPEN A WINDOW
Ok, you might be impressed here, as this is actually just a tip. When you first click to get to said deviation, it opens as a thumbnail with the comments below. Right-click (or whatever it is you mac users do) on the thumbnail and go to "open link in new window." This opens the full image - you guessed it - in a new window. Now in the first one, scroll down to your little comment box, and now all you have to do to refer back to the piece is click on a dumb little button at the bottom of your screen. Hip Hip Hooray. The point?
"Refer back to the image when you're commenting. Helps you describe what you're seeing and sometimes pick up on new things"
READ UP ON IT
This is pretty much a no-brainer, but then again, if it wasn't an issue i wouldn't be putting it in here, now would i?
READ THE DESCRIPTION. It sometimes informs you about the piece so that you may better understand it and other times will even tell you about mistakes the artist knows are there! Thinking of mistakes and reading, it's also a good idea to skim the rest of the comments while you're scrolling down. If not to laugh at their inferiority (just kidding) then to find out if anyone else noticed what you did so you can skip that or refer to it in your comment.
"YOU never know, but USUALLY the artist does. Read about it now in the very description of the piece you are critiqueing!"
DON'T GO SOFT
My final step is the promised closure to my outburst above. Just because you need to try and be helpful doesn't mean you should hold back. Most people's comments are crap because they are afraid. And to avoid sounding like that guy from Donnie Darko i'm going to clarify this by saying: They are afraid of hurting the artist's feelings by pointing out things that are wrong. THIS IS WRONG. If there's something you don't like about a piece, SAY IT! EVEN if it is 'just an opinion'. It's your opinion and you have a right to it! Just be sure when you're stating opinions you think you're gonna catch hell for, that you tell them quite clearly that it is just your opinion. Facts are one thing, opinions are everything else.
"Remember: Opinions help artists grow - don't be afraid to voice yours."
---
~CONCLUSION~
There ya go - that wasn't so hard now, was it? Didn't think so. As a parting note, i'm going to leave you with a few links regarding commenting that you might find more useful, but lengthier as well. This guide is meant to give people an 'abbreviated' guide to commenting. Their guides are longer, but more comprehensive. Check them out!
THE COMMENT REVOLUTION by ~ splat
C-DADDY'S GUIDE TO COMMENTING by ~ coshdaddy
"The Art of Commenting" by ~ inziladun
That's all folks! Thanks for reading!
DEVIL!
Reddit gets Devil'd
So, this is the year i get back into art. With any luck. haha... who am i kidding? I guess the point is i'm trying to make a concerted effort to do more art and play more music.
One step to this is one i think everyone should explore who likes to / needs to work on drawing people: http://www.reddit.com/r/redditgetsdrawn/
There are tons of people who submit pictures to this place and many of them never even get one drawing. The rules are super strict in a good way - no commenting on the looks of the people who submit pictures, those who submit pictures must thank and upvote every drawing that is submitted for their photo (no matter how
Life\'s turns and dead ends
So Phoenix was a wash. Nothing went right in my life for many many weeks and finally culminated in me having to move back in with my father in Blair, NE. So, here i sit, here i work, trying to scrape together enough money to mount an escape. And life itself has taken on a very surreal sheen to it.
On a side note: Where's all the art? I haven't check this in a couple weeks and it seems like nobody has posted anything, really... absolutely nuts!
il (https://www.deviantart.com/il)
PS working on arty type things. They're slow going but coming soon.
Whew, Really? Life and it's strange turns
I am moving to Phoenix.
A whole lot has changed since my last post. I no longer work for the print shop, my aspirations for massive sticker production have been put on hold, I moved out of the house i was living in, I don't have a job, my car broke down, my band broke up, one of my brothers is going to Afghanistan, and the other had a baby (who actually turned 1 recently, but not all this was covered in DA so i figure what the hell i'll lump it in too haha)
I have an itch to make art. I have an itch to write music. I have an itch to move. I intend to pursue these itches and scratch the shit out of them. If i can only motivate myself en
What i'm up to!
Hey everyone! Haven't been active in a long time, but that's gonna change here pretty soon i feel. I"m working at a print shop where i can print off stickers for FREE. Yes, FREE. Now, that's within reason, of course, but when i have margins on the giant rolls i print from, i'm free to do what i want. SO! I'm going to be designing and pumping out stickers like a madman - which takes me to my other thing - i'm also going to start a sticker business. That means, custom stickers - mass produced - not screen printed like most, so you can do pictures, high quality multicolor shit. I'll post a website when i have it up and running but i'm gu
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wow, 2004, well that's a long time and still, this feels like timeless! is so great to have this kind of journal entries! if i could,i loved it. but anyways, after, reading some of the comments, i still think that if my message center is filled with devs that i follow and have been left for another day, even if the artist submit the art too long ago i don't think is useless to not leave a comment or critique to them simply for the amount of time passed by. every artist -i think- is waiting for their work to be noticeable not just for a week or two, but for all the time that can possibly be, don't you think so?. i know, we cannot give a comment on the 2293 devs we left behind in our message center, but... perhaps the ones that catch our eye can do the charm don't you think?. i think if everyone of us can figure it out to be more open about giving your opinion -as you said- we wont have to be afraid to hurt the artist feelings if you know exactly what you want to say and how to say it, as Constructive Criticism.
in the first place, it is not our job -as viewers of the artwork- to stay in the background not telling what we really feel about your artwork, and leave the artist thinking that "yea... you fav their work" but that does not mean that you loved it or that is just a good piece... and also is our obligation in a certain way to tell the artist what is what we like about their artwork; and it is also our obligations -as artist- to receive every comment or criticism NOT PERSONAL!, i know a lot of people that thinks that if someone says something they feel is bad is like life is going to end! that is so not true! we can't grow much from the people that fakes a smile all the time, but we can grow from the people that are not afraid of telling us the little of bigger flaws that our work can have or the thing in which we can improve! we have to take everything good that comes from everyone else, and grow with it! to be better and better every time! thank you again and i'm totally leaving this as a permanent link in my journal....
regards!!
pd. sorry for the loooooong comment... i feel like saying it
in the first place, it is not our job -as viewers of the artwork- to stay in the background not telling what we really feel about your artwork, and leave the artist thinking that "yea... you fav their work" but that does not mean that you loved it or that is just a good piece... and also is our obligation in a certain way to tell the artist what is what we like about their artwork; and it is also our obligations -as artist- to receive every comment or criticism NOT PERSONAL!, i know a lot of people that thinks that if someone says something they feel is bad is like life is going to end! that is so not true! we can't grow much from the people that fakes a smile all the time, but we can grow from the people that are not afraid of telling us the little of bigger flaws that our work can have or the thing in which we can improve! we have to take everything good that comes from everyone else, and grow with it! to be better and better every time! thank you again and i'm totally leaving this as a permanent link in my journal....
regards!!
pd. sorry for the loooooong comment... i feel like saying it